Nov 092002
 

Both Vul
IMPs
Dealer: East
Lead: CK

petit_g
S 10
H A 9 4 2
D Q 10 8 2
C A 10 6 5
janiner
S 9 6 3
H K 10
D 9 7
C K Q J 7 4 3
[W - E] justinl
S K 7 5 4
H 7 6 5
D A K J 5 3
C 9
Maestro
S A Q J 8 2
H Q J 8 3
D 6 4
C 8 2
West

Pass
Pass
Pass
Pass

North

1NT
3 H
Pass
Pass

East
1 D
Pass
Pass
Dbl
South
1 S
2 H
4 H
Pass

 

Bridge teaching is difficult. Ordinarily keeping your student’s spirits up produces the best results, but sometimes, as in today’s hand, harsher measures are called for.

Proceedings begin innocuously, with a standard diamond opener by Seaman Lall, East, and a 1S overcall by Gee. Mini-Gee replies 1NT, passed back to our hero, who without hesitation bids 2H. Mini, under the impression that this shows a good hand, and holding four-card support and a maximum, naturally enough invites with 3H; Gee reevaluates his loser-rich, already immensely overbid hand and plunges fearlessly into game. A Bones double by the Seaman, holding two defensive tricks at most opposite a partner who has shown nothing, ends the auction.

West leads the club king and recriminations begin immediately.

Gerard: why 3H, efes?
G: just pass 2H
petit_g: god knows how many u got.. i limited my hand with 1 nt..why 4
petit_g: ????????????
G: yes you know
G: 1S then 2H …. can’t have much
petit_g: how do i know?? 3h is a free bid… and don’t have more than 10 for sure [He must mean 2H. —Ed.]
G: not true efes
petit_g: yes u cant have 17+
G: no, I can’t… I can’t even have 13
petit_g: why not??????????
petit_g: u r not a passed hand
G: what would I rebid with more than 12 points? [I give up. What? —Ed.]
petit_g: changing colour actually shows opening or more
G: no, efes… I am only the crew
petit_g: if u dont have much pass 3h, if i pass ur 2 h and we have a game i will be responsible
G: 1S then 2H is as weak as it comes
petit_g: yes if u r a passed hand
G: no, efes
petit_g: well ok then i am sorry i am not understanding
petit_g: i don’t understand this game

Gee bites his tongue and declares to his customary standard. He wins the club lead and plays S10. If he overtakes with the jack, playing the Seaman for the spade king, which he is a big favorite to hold, he goes down 1. He ruffs a spade and plays a low club. The defenders get their two diamonds and one trump but that’s all. Gee, however, makes the key play of the spade ace, leaving himself a spade loser in the endgame for down 2, -500, and a less than satisfactory result. Out comes the hickory switch:

G: proof is in the pudding… we just made 2
petit_g: u wanna be captain in all seats… its not fair… u r telling me my bidding and playing is wrong in front of all… when u r right, u r right but not this time sorry
G: oh no… dont start that with me, efes
petit_g: ok sorry…

Uh oh. Criticizing Gee’s bidding is one thing, but taking captaincy theory in vain will not be treated lightly.

G: what did I say 5 minutes ago?
justinl: come on guys, this is just a fun game, lets all relax a bit
G: that in this auction I was just the crew
petit_g: sorry and ty all
petit_g i cannot concentrate when u do this to me
G: I did not do anything to you
G: you are doing it to yourself
petit_g: i have not made any mistake at all… when I do i accept… but i am your pd… am i not?
G: you made an error, fine… just trying to tell you where
petit_g: no it is not an error… pls check… u cannot say it is… it was totally right
petit_g: and u criticize when i do.. but dont when i dont
G: you were right because you can’t see or refuse to see where you were wrong
G: I criticized you?
G: you told me I wanted to be captain in all hands
G: that’s criticizing you?
G: that’s you criticizing me
G: you bid wrong… and I told you you did
petit_g: my bid is very very very right 100 percent… if not i dont wanna play this game coz i know nothin
G: can’t you take that and try to understand?
G: no, efes
G: you can believe whatever you want… your 3H was wrong
G: now… are you gonna calm down?
petit_g: ok it was wrong.. this is how i play this game… pls accept
G: not if you play with me nor any really knowledgeable patner.. that means expert partner
G: do that to an expert and you are out the table [Ummm…”out the table”? —Ed.]
Spec #1: once you criticize your partner in front of everyone who not only has have one opponent you have three
G: I DID NOT DO THAT TO YOU, DID I?

Charity begins at home.

petit_g: i think u were distracted with the bidding…
G: you want to play with me, you play correct… not the Efes way
petit_g: i am sure u had a phone or something…
Gerard: again.. attacking me instead of accepting what I am telling you!!!!
petit_g: i am not attacking u.. u teach me all i know.. why should i?
Gerard: best way to defend yourself is beat me down to the ground… like aaron?

Wait a second. How’d I get involved in this?

G: you made a bad bid, efes
petit_g: pls calm down… sorry… i will leave…
G: I explained why
petit_g: just be ok and thats enuf
G: can’t you accept that without attacking me?
G: that’s ok… I’ll quit
G: efes.. your stubbornness will not help your game
G: oops he left

Oops. Still, discipline has been restored.

  12 Responses to “The Blackboard Jungle”

  1.  

    I had not seen this hand but was given it as a problem by a spec who had. I was asked what I would bid over 2 hearts. Noting the 2 aces and not much wasted in diamonds for my NT bid, I bid 4 hearts, remarking that it was close between 3 and 4. Guess I would get in even more trouble than Minigee.

  2.  

    Once again the student has surpassed the master, although when the master is Gee the compliment of necessity acquires a left-handed flavour. Nevertheless, MiniGee was polite and patient, accepting blame where he had none, and quiet in his insistence of his correctness. Gee would do well to learn from the student, and no doubt, in gratitude for the many expert lessons Gee has already given him, MiniGee would forego all fees.

  3.  

    Mini should fire G immediately for this hand alone (not to mention the past abuses):

    1. G misbid the hand. Where the hell did 4h come from? When since does mini’s 1nt response to G’s 1 spade overcall indicate an opening hand or better? The 3 h response gave G the opportunity to revaluate his hand. And nothing in his hand had changed.

    2. G’s usual standard of play.

    3. G’s unexcusable rudeness. To blame partner for your mistakes is so sorry. So unexcusable. So small minded. And to do it in front of others compounds the rudeness of it.

    I really believe that G owes mini a major PUBLIC mea culpa.

  4.  

    Gee is so wrong, as always, and shows his true colors by the commentary. Can petitg INDEED be a student??? And WHY? There are lots of good teachers if he needs one, G knows nearly nothing of bridge.

  5.  

    I had once mentioned that Efes has surpassed the teacher (if you can call G a teacher AT ALL). This hand clearly illustrates that Efes has a good grasp of bidding concept, that G is as usual blinded by his own ego and knows nothing, and continues to put blame on his partner. This hand was also given to me by a spec as a bidding problem, and I too chose 1NT by Efes, and then the 3H bid. As it turns out, 3H is just making, and 4H would be cold if G indeed has a decent hand. Why would 2H be weak, I know not. Efes, keep up the good work, and do not quit bridge. I know someone else that should quit though… any guesses?

    P.S. Who invented this ridiculous captaincy theory anyway? This is a horrible way to teach anyone bidding theory.

  6.  

    Ok, let me see what we have here…

    First a columnist who besides the columns in this website is not able to get a job at writing for the real stuff and advertizes being the webmaster for websites… which are all his own… not a single paying client…

    Then we have comments by a bunch of people who push cards but are setting themselves as judges… O_bones (good writer but who thinks he is God), curtisxx, who is so good that when he comes to my table to play against me, his potential partner tells me privately “not him, please!” [Exceptionally vicious personal attack omitted. —Ed.] and vulture, of course, who will say anything as long as he can attack me for some reason I still don’t have any clue about… what an army of losers!… But that’s your army, aaron… irac… you are not included in the lot… I think that you got lost here writing stuff…

    Grow up, people… I wont even attack your knowledge in bridge, because I dont even think your motivations have anything to do with bridge… This or your being compassion towards petit_g is due to your own lack of understanding bridge auctions any better than he does (but at least petit_g tries)… So you think you can be so judgemental… Learn that petit_g is my friend, and after all is said and done, we have a drink and laugh at you all about your bad faith or ignorance of the game…

    Yes, petit_g was frustrated, expressed it and was out of line. I told him so myself then and after the game.

    Now… talking about rudeness… Before you can accuse me of rudeness… just read what you write yourselves, people… If that is not rudeness… what is? Every line you write is an insult, nasty and outrageous.

    Also, aaron, in this present case, you are reporting something that you have no right to report… Another example of rudeness… It was a work session, not an open game. The table was hidden, but, by courtesy, I had let a few specs in who I felt I could trust not to make public what took place during this private session… They betrayed my trust… and you were too happy to oblige whoever did that. This will put an end to having any spec at all while in a lesson or working session. You have no sense of honor, no sense of morality and totally irrespectful of others. You are the bottom of the barrel to use the name curtisxx used so eloquently concerning me.

    As for the auction itself, bidding 2H after 1S is not, has never been showing a big hand… in any system. It is not a reverse, and since I was the crew at this stage of the auction, I just simply showed a 4 card heart suit and preference for 2H over 1NT as a contract. The error was the 3H by petit_g which was inviting me to bid 4 if close to or at the maximum of my range, which I was with 11 HCPs + 2 distribution points since assured of a fit… for a total of 13 points. This justified my 4H bid. The problem was indeed the 3H by petit_g, captain in the auction, who failed to recognize the maximum value of my hand as less than 17 points, and not doing his job as captain.

    The play itself was function not of taking an automatic down 1, but trying to make against all odds. It was do or die… Not a misplay as you so emphatically state, aaron.

    Now… let’s see how rude I was during the exchange with petit_g, since all 4 of you have an urge to find rudeness in the way I treated petit_g…

    Gerard: why 3H, efes?
    G: just pass 2H (simple statement of fact, nothing else)
    petit_g: god knows how many u got.. i limited my hand with 1 nt..why 4
    petit_g: ???????????? (so many question marks show impatience and strong disagreement)
    G: yes you know
    G: 1S then 2H …. can’t have much (I seem to justify my 2H here.. still dont find any mistreatment of petit_g)
    petit_g: how do i know?? 3h is a free bid… and don’t have more than 10 for sure (He must mean 2H. —Ed.) (aaron, you are making things up… again…! If you can find an typing error there, how comes you couldn’t see that I pressed on the cap lock by accident some time ago instead of crucifying me for writing a paragraph in caps? petit_g meant what he wrote and you know it! I put this on the account of your continuous bad faith)
    G: not true efes
    petit_g: yes u cant have 17+ (admitting I could not have a big hand)
    G: no, I can’t… I can’t even have 13
    petit_g: why not?????????? (more impatience by petit_g)
    petit_g: u r not a passed hand
    G: what would I rebid with more than 12 points? (I give up. What? —Ed. you are an arrogant imbecile, aaron!!!!)
    petit_g: changing colour actually shows opening or more (not true if not a reverse nor a jump in a new suit – something that petit_g has still problems understanding sometimes)
    G: no, efes… I am only the crew (that is the statement that petit_g will conveniently deny I made later)
    petit_g: if u dont have much pass 3h, if i pass ur 2 h and we have a game i will be responsible (and responsible as long as all goes well, else will accuse me of not teaching him properly… been there…. done that!)
    G: 1S then 2H is as weak as it comes (no rudeness by me still)
    petit_g: yes if u r a passed hand (same confusion by petit_g)
    G: no, efes (maybe firm, but not rude)
    petit_g: well ok then i am sorry i am not understanding
    petit_g: i don’t understand this game
    G: proof is in the pudding… we just made 2
    petit_g: u wanna be captain in all seats (bingo! this is an insult by him to me, not me to him!!!! I said earlier I was only the crew)… its not fair… u r telling me my bidding and playing is wrong in front of all… when u r right, u r right but not this time sorry (that’s attacking me using argument denying what I said earlier… I said I was only the crew and he accused me of taking over captainship now instead of stopping – better to attack than admit being wrong and stopping arguing – I call that insulting to me)
    G: oh no… dont start that with me, efes
    petit_g: ok sorry… (he realized it now)
    G: what did I say 5 minutes ago?
    G: that in this auction I was just the crew (I had not seen his last line when I pressed enter)
    petit_g: sorry and ty all (famous escape. He can’t be wrong, so he quits!)
    petit_g: i cannot concentrate when u do this to me (All my fault now! – must be like dont tell a kid he is doing something wrong I guess… that must have been mistreating the poor kid!)
    G: I did not do anything to you
    G: you are doing it to yourself
    petit_g: i have not made any mistake at all… (wrong! On the first board he did not open with an opening hand and ignored my signals in the 7th hand we played costing us several IMPs) when I do i accept… but i am your pd… am i not?
    G: you made an error, fine… just trying to tell you where (should I not tell my students he made an error? Oh, I see… that must be mistreating him!!!)
    petit_g: no it is not an error… pls check… u cannot say it is… it was totally right (classic denial, yes, I can say it is, because it is!)
    petit_g: and u criticize when i do.. but dont when i dont (I fail to see when I criticized him)
    G: you were right because you can’t see or refuse to see where you were wrong (now I get cynical)
    G: I criticized you? (I did not criticized him, I criticized his 3H bid… nothing to do with him)
    G: you told me I wanted to be captain in all hands
    G: that’s criticizing you?
    G: that’s you criticizing me (placing who criticized who in the proper perspective)
    G: you bid wrong… and I told you you did
    petit_g: my bid is very very very right 100 percent (more denial)… if not i dont wanna play this game coz i know nothin (now threatening: I get my way else…)
    G: can’t you take that and try to understand?
    G: no, efes
    G: you can believe whatever you want… your 3H was wrong
    G: now… are you gonna calm down?
    petit_g: ok it was wrong.. this is how i play this game… pls accept (now he accepts but only wants to do things his way, correct or not and wants me to accept what I know is wrong? NEVER!!!)
    G: not if you play with me nor any really knowledgeable patner.. that means expert partner
    G: do that to an expert and you are out the table (Ummm…”out the table”? –Ed.)(aaron… let’s see how you do without editing of your text!!! or do you maintain the statement by petit_g about the 3H was a typo?)
    Spec #1: once you criticize your partner in front of everyone who not only has have one opponent you have three (spec #1, whoever you are, you’d better learn the difference between correcting an error and criticizing… you are criticizing me here, I only corrected a bidding error by petit_g!)
    G: I DID NOT DO THAT TO YOU, DID I? (meaning I did not send you to hell… No comments about the caps here, aaron?)
    petit_g: i think u were distracted with the bidding… (not satisfied with the result, petit_g is using now another tactic to escape from having to accept he had to review his bidding approach)
    G: you want to play with me, you play correct… not the Efes way
    petit_g: i am sure u had a phone or something…
    Gerard: again.. attacking me instead of accepting what I am telling you!!!!
    petit_g: i am not attacking u.. u teach me all i know.. why should i?
    Gerard: best way to defend yourself is beat me down to the ground… like aaron? (yes aaron, because you are a poor player, it is better for the safeguard of you comfort zone to beat me down to the ground on the basis that the best defense is attacking)
    G: you made a bad bid, efes
    petit_g: pls calm down… sorry… i will leave… (now I would like to know where I got excited in all what precedes!)
    G: I explained why
    petit_g: just be ok and thats enuf (now I have to feel guilty on top of it!)
    G: can’t you accept that without attacking me?
    G: that’s ok… I’ll quit
    G: efes.. your stubbornness will not help your game

    I do not believe I showed any sign of impatience towards petit_g, I dont see where I criticized him at all… Though I criticized a bid of his, which is a normal thing in the course of a work session.

    By what right, aaron, curtisxx, kaima and vulture do you judge my behaviour. Your comments are out of line, injust, unjustified, false accusations and showing again and again that your sole purpose is to make derogatory comments about me, and I tax your comments of having nothing to do with bridge and of being slandering.

    I will make this my last comment in your columns, aaron. I wont bother coming back here either to see what other garbage you write…

    you are not worth it… you are a little man, with little to say, little ambition, and a little mind… Goes for you too, curtisxx, kaima, o_bones and vulture… and same for the few others who you attract. Low life attracts low life.

    I don’t deal with your kind… [More scurrilous innuendo omitted. —Ed.] reason why I don’t play with you anymore, curtisxx… you don’t make errors… you don’t know what errors are… vulture… you are nothing at all… wont even bother with you… O_Bones… what a pity… such much talent when you write and so little else besides that!

    I’ll skip the ones who haven’t yet made any comments this time… you know who you are.

    Finally aaron, you have a list a names I called you… let’s review the names you called me:

    well… I give up… there are too many of them…

    You think that making fun of somebody, insulting somebody, practicing character assassination and slander is humour?

    If so, I have no sense of humour…

    aaron, curtisxx, kaima and vulture… you strive on negativity., but one day, you will in turn pay for it… who lives by the word dies by the sword… Your turn will come… not from me though… I have better and more important things to do in life…

    Therefore I say aaron, o_bones, kaima, curtisxx, leah and whoever else in your gang…

    You are the weakest links, goodbye!

  7.  

    i am sure me and Gerard r not the only bridge players who went through such a conversation…although all the comments look on my side, i am willing to take the blame if all of u friends (we see each other more than our spouses) heartly think of it, and accept we are being too much tough to Gerard, first Gerard is somebody i love in life, he is more than a teacher therefore i cannot discard him; he is a person like us all and has mistakes like all humans, and can easily get overexcited about competitive situations….i myself and i am sure all of us have said words which we actually didnt mean just because of the pressure of competition…pls lets all respect and try to understand one another…love u all….

  8.  

    Gerard fails to understand that I have no “army” and no “gang”; what I have is readers, who include some of the best players in the country. I allow comments, but this does not mean I endorse all the views of my commentators. They are obliged to give their names, and I encourage Gerard to take up his grievances with them directly.

    Gerard has again accused me of inaccuracy, inaccurately. The discussion was exactly as I reported it. My editorial remark about 2H vs. 3H was carefully couched as such; if I wished to distort, I could have changed 3H to 2H without comment. His capital letters looked then and look now like they were deliberate and in anger. I have published his denial, which the reader may evaluate for what it’s worth.

    As for “betrayal of trust,” all hand records on OKBridge are public; I can look them up at my leisure no matter how many spectators were at the table. And if Gerard’s spectators, his opponents, or even his partner wish to report a conversation to me, presuming they have not been sworn to secrecy, then they are free to do so.

    Later on Gerard nearly embarks on a list of names I’ve called him, but then changes his mind because “there are too many of them,” or, more likely, because there are none at all.

    His gloss of the discussion speaks nearly for itself. Gerard’s demand to know what specifically he said that was rude misses the point. Few things are more infuriating than to be told, blandly and repeatedly, that one is wrong when one is right; under the circumstances I thought Mini kept his temper rather well. In his comment Gerard characterizes Mini’s behavior as follows: “classic denial,” “more denial,” “famous escape, he can’t be wrong so he quits,” and “threatening.” This is a remarkably impolite way to acquit oneself of rudeness.

    And “arrogant imbecile” though I may be, I still don’t know what he would rebid with more than 12.

  9.  

    Out of all that .. my name finally crept in. YIKES!

    As evidenced here by Gerard’s diatribe, it appears he did not care to take my advice to tone down his behavior in order to better get along.

    It will be a cold day in hell when Gerard really gives up looking at this website as he promised to do. Let’s see … the Top Ten Reasons Gerard WILL continue to read Aaron’s website …

    10. To improve his composition of the English language.
    9. To get bridge lessons on the few hands a year he has made mistakes on.
    8. To collect names for his exile list.
    7. To find out when he has been hit by the Bones double.
    6. Vanity; he likes the attention and to see his name in print.
    5. To collect evidence of atrocities committed against him.
    4. He has nothing more important to do???? (Who knows?)
    3. To get the chance to call Aaron names again.
    2. To look for the captain, crew and students who have wittingly walked the plank.

    And the NUMBER ONE REASON Gerard will continue to read Aaron’s website is:

    1. He has no conviction. Look at the number of times he has threatened to quit OKBridge.

    Since Gerard won’t be reading this then I don’t have to worry about it offending him.

  10.  

    Dear Aaron and readers,
    I hope this last event will be the end of the G chronicles and everybody once of a sudden becomes friends, look; new year is coming….and my first new year wish is peace for all… lets not continue this thing, please my friends:)

    •  

      Much as I’d like to teach the world to sing in perfect harmony — and anyone who knows me knows that this is my fondest wish — I can’t give up the Gee Chronicles, for what is a warm, cuddly community of readers with nothing to read? Large cash bribes, however, will receive careful consideration.

  11.  

    3h looks like a normal bid by N and I am sure 90% of players would bid it (10% would bid 4h), but under the circumstances it’s a very superficial if not a plain wrong bid.

    When we get the additional information that S will be declarer in a heart contract and that E-W are aware of the Bones principle, PASS is by far the best bid. It doesn’t matter whether S is max, super max, crew, captain or whatever.

    An alternative to PASS is 2nt in an attempt to play the hand from the “right” side, but it has a major drawback. It gives S the chance to bid again.

    2hx should have a fair chance if south has something resembling to what he has promised in the bidding.

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